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DesireeSky



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject:  Electric Cello and Effects Pedals
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Hey all -
So I've been playing my electric cello clean, but I think it's about time I got some more fun out of it. My question though, do I use bass pedals or guitar pedals? Right now, I just want a simple distortion pedal, then I'll add up from there. Suggestions:?:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I read an interview with Melora Creager of Rasputina, in which Danelectro distortion pedals were mentioned. I recall the Danelectro Fab Tone (a guitar pedal) was a secret weapon of some indie bands such as Mogwai.

When I had an electric cello, I was surprised to find myself liking the sound when I tried running it through a Fuzzhugger AB Synth. It was a surprise because the AB Synth is such a high gain fuzz pedal - I didn't think it would give me much in the way of dynamics.

The best thing you can do for yourself though is try various pedals on your cello, as tastes are so individual.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hmmm... I do like Rasputina. I do not, however, know ANYTHING about pedals. I've never played with one with any instrument. What would you suggest as a first time pedal, that's not too elaborate and not too expensive?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DesireeSky wrote:
hmmm... I do like Rasputina. I do not, however, know ANYTHING about pedals. I've never played with one with any instrument. What would you suggest as a first time pedal, that's not too elaborate and not too expensive?


I'd take that thing to Sam Ash in KOP and hook 'er up to everything they have!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

While I can't really comment on distortion, there are two points I'd make about effects generally.

First, when using effects like phasing and so on, you may well find you prefer the expression you'd get from a foot controller. Effects can sound interesting at first and then pale quickly when all they do is swish up and down at a regular rate, and that would be especially a loss with an expressive instrument like the cello. If money is no object, Moog's Moogerfooger range would be worth looking at. Otherwise some of the Line 6 stuff can be used with an expression pedal.

Second, once you have more than one effect unit it becomes important to experiment with the order in which the effects are placed in the signal chain. For example phased fuzz can sound good, but fuzzed phase usually doesn't. And the order in the effects chain can also affect how much the background noise gets boosted. If you ever have problems with that, try rearranging your units.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DesireeSky wrote:
hmmm... I do like Rasputina. I do not, however, know ANYTHING about pedals. I've never played with one with any instrument. What would you suggest as a first time pedal, that's not too elaborate and not too expensive?


I agree with Airlock - just bring your cello to a music store and try a bunch of pedals in your price range. That is how most of us learn about pedals.

The aforementioned Danelectro Fab Distortion is $12. The Boss DS-1 Distortion is about $30. I am not necessarily endorsing these pedals - just giving you an idea of how much/little they cost.

You may also try "overdrive" pedals instead. These attempt to emulate the sound of tube amplfier distortion and tend to sound less aggressive than "distortion" pedals. Boss makes several of these.

Another type of pedal that is popular is "delay". The store will also have various models at various price ranges. Try those pedals as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks everyone! I'm totally into that idea of going to Sam Ash and trying them all out. I actually ordered a couple cheap danelectro's from amazon yesterday - a distortion and a delay. Unfortunately, as with most of us, money is not in endless supply so we'll try the cheap stuff first. I have to spend my money on recording with the band and merch right now.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey, glad to meet another electric cello player! I played acoustic for 5 years, and have since switched to a yamaha svc-200 silent cello, which folds up quite nicely so its easy to load/unload at gigs... Currently i've been using a modded Boss Metal Zone with a heavy metal/noise band I work with, and for the more mellow avantgarde, I use a memory man analog delay pedal. I've been playing with an AKAI head rush loop pedal sometimes too, as well as an octave down....
A good artist to check out is zoe keating. she uses a loopstation and does a beautiful job of it.
I know that at guitar center they have a pedal board for you to test out the models they have for sale, and music friendly pawn shops will let you test out their items too.
Let us know what you find out!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nice to meet you fellow electric cellist! I do know Zoe Keating and I absolutely adore her. Also, Julia Kent.

I just bought a couple little danelectro pedals to try out, just some distortion and some delay. My band doesn't really need a lot of effect, it's an indie folk rock band, but I wanted to have a little fun with it. We'll see soon!

Do you have anything recorded I could check out?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Have you heard Rena Jones?

http://www.renamusic.com/2/home.php

She's one of my faves.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like Bela Emerson Ohm...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

H&K Tubefactor!

it is on a bit expensive side but it is really really good, it gives you from just a tiny bit of organic distortion to full on crunch!

check it out!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

esaias wrote:
H&K Tubefactor!

it is on a bit expensive side but it is really really good, it gives you from just a tiny bit of organic distortion to full on crunch!

check it out!

-Tomi

Actually, speaking of H&K and tubes - I have their Tube Rotosphere II Leslie/rotary speaker sim pedal for sale if anyone is interested! Smile
(and speaking of Sam Ash and KoP, I live only about 20 or so minutes from there)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Har wrote:

Actually, speaking of H&K and tubes - I have their Tube Rotosphere II Leslie/rotary speaker sim pedal for sale if anyone is interested! Smile
(and speaking of Sam Ash and KoP, I live only about 20 or so minutes from there)

How much? I have a son who may be interested, and we're about 45 minutes nw of kop.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-49398.html

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Acoustic Interloper wrote:
Har wrote:

Actually, speaking of H&K and tubes - I have their Tube Rotosphere II Leslie/rotary speaker sim pedal for sale if anyone is interested! Smile
(and speaking of Sam Ash and KoP, I live only about 20 or so minutes from there)

How much? I have a son who may be interested, and we're about 45 minutes nw of kop.

I'm asking $290 + shipping - the link [Q] posted above has more details including a photo (thanks [Q]! Smile ); of course, if you're ever in the area down here the shipping could be a moot point!
I also have a Seymour Duncan Shape Shifter tap-tempo tremolo pedal I'm selling for $100, or $350 for both the Rotosphere and the tremolo together if interested. Smile

The primary reason I'm selling the Rotosphere is only because of its large footprint (~8" x 8.5" x 3.5"...it's a big'un! Wink ) - I have a pretty well-populated pedalboard rig and just need to free up some physical room!

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions...thanks! Very Happy

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