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YOUR SEMESTER JUST GOT SIMPLIFIED 
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opg
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I work at a community college. I had to create a list of all the websites that offer term papers. It's freakin' ridiculous. I went to a seminar with some of the faculty on cheating, and the speaker (who once taught English at a college) told this story:
Professor: "I'm giving you an F because this paper is not your original work. It's plagiarism."
Student: "What do you mean? I paid good money for that paper!"
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kenl666
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| opg wrote: | Professor: "I'm giving you an F because this paper is not your original work. It's plagiarism."
Student: "What do you mean? I paid good money for that paper!"
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At the uni I attend, any such downloaded paper would result in the student getting kicked out of the program (at least, I hope).
There were also reports of students posting computer science homework on sites such a rent-a-coder, offering to pay for the project. I don't know if this actually occured or if the faculty was just trying to scare us out of doing this (it certainly worked for me!)
Just out of curiosity, is this strictly an American problem or are other countries seeing it too?
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But with more and more universities being run by business- and managers having to meet targets- it's not surprising. Yep it is plagiarism but so is copying and pasting from the internet. It's shit, but what can you do about it? Ban the internet? I don't think so.
But the worst consequence is that it means that those who do put the work in are seen in the same light as those who cheat- this is plain wrong.
The best thing to do is to rally the Student Union and protest (If you can get them off their complacent modern arses that is). A hard call especially as we are now dealing with Thatcher's Children (well in the UK anyway)
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Looks like a very difficult problem. If students are careful, how are they going to get caught? If there are hundreds of sites offering term papers, it's pretty hard to keep a database of bogus documents like this.
Well, there has always been cheating. It's just now you don't even have to be smart to cheat. In my day, cheating was hard work. 
Just kidding, kids. I would never cheat; and I never got caught. 
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| mosc wrote: | | Looks like a very difficult problem. If students are careful, how are they going to get caught? If there are hundreds of sites offering term papers, it's pretty hard to keep a database of bogus documents like this. |
Still thats what they try to do over here, and build software for automatic detection. It even seems to work pretty well, or maybe they want the students to believe that ... |
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Yeah - the schools that can afford it use software that will search the internet (not just known term paper sites) and label a paper plagiarized if there are a certain amount of sentences that are exactly the same. The only time this is a problem is if a student legitimately uses a really long quote from a source (which probably isn't good to use in a paper anyway).
But, like software hacking and filesharing, people will always be one step ahead of technology - UNTIL they cheat so much throughout school that they become dumber. THAT'S when robots will control the universe.
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| opg wrote: | | THAT'S when robots will control the universe. |
Yes, Ray Kurzweil says that'll be in about 30 or 40 years.
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| Well, at least we know that none of those robots will ever figure out how to create a time machine, because we'd know already. Wait....my brain hurts. |
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| opg wrote: | the schools that can afford it use software that will search the internet (not just known term paper sites) and label a paper plagiarized if there are a certain amount of sentences that are exactly the same. The only time this is a problem is if a student legitimately uses a really long quote from a source (which probably isn't good to use in a paper anyway).
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There is a way around this you know- it's called a 'library'! (non-online naturally)
One of the last assignments we had last semester- the lecturer told us that most info needed for the essay was available on the internet. Of course he was pulling a fast one. Those who used the internet did pretty badly. Those who went to the library did well!
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